The electoral system is to ensure that the politicians do not only cater to the few most populous states. It is there to ensure that politicians have to take into consideration the interest of less popular states. If you put in a pure popular vote system, then all the metropolitan states dominate all the agenda. No one would care what MN, WI, Ohio, IOWA, etc think.
What may be worth considering is the allocation of electoral votes. May be the electoral votes can be allocated based on % won by each candidates, instead of a winner takes all. But the Democrats will never allow that, as they would lose their strangled on the NY and CA electoral votes.
Btw, third party candidates are just vote splitters. A vote for your favourite third party candidate is basically a vote for your LEAST preferred candidate. Just ask those Dems who voted for Nader and those GOPs who voted for Perot.
The GOP has 40% of the votes. The Dem has 40% of the votes. Independents has 20% of the votes. Elections are not won by trying to win over the other party's diehard. GOP candidate catering to DEM diehard = mega fail. Dem candidate catering to GOP diehard = mega fail. They just alienate their own base and fail to win over the diehard.
Elections are won by consolidating your base and winning over just half of the independents. Screw the other party's diehard as they will never vote for you in most cases.
Third party candidate just wouldnt cut it. They will not get any diehard from either party as everyone remembers what Perot and Nader did, ie siphoning away votes to let in the other party's candidate. So the diehard will not vote third party. And there isnt enough independent. So third party candidate is just a pipe dream.
Voting for a third party is not just a wasted vote, but essentially, a vote FOR your least preferred candidate. All you manage to accomplish, is to deny the lesser of the two evils your vote, allowing the bigger of the two evils to prevail. Cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Ah guys, probably anyone at the top is doing it mostly for ego and you know the outcome there can never be good. I truly believe that most presidents have the best intentions but with money and lobbying, nothing is ever truly honest. Anyway, at least for once we may have a red Monday. Sundancer, thank you so much for your insight, it gives me some peace of mind.
Independent candidates would be better then the bought and paid for Democrats and Republicans that are in office now. The “2 Party” system needs to be eliminated anyway, and so should the “electoral voting system”. We should just count the peoples' votes.
I said since Sept 09 till Healthcare if passed we “will not see any significant sell off” (from Evil speculator blog post Sept) we shall see tomorrow if my thoughts are fullfilled. Selling will come this week.
The electoral system is to ensure that the politicians do not only cater to the few most populous states. It is there to ensure that politicians have to take into consideration the interest of less popular states. If you put in a pure popular vote system, then all the metropolitan states dominate all the agenda. No one would care what MN, WI, Ohio, IOWA, etc think.
What may be worth considering is the allocation of electoral votes. May be the electoral votes can be allocated based on % won by each candidates, instead of a winner takes all. But the Democrats will never allow that, as they would lose their strangled on the NY and CA electoral votes.
Btw, third party candidates are just vote splitters. A vote for your favourite third party candidate is basically a vote for your LEAST preferred candidate. Just ask those Dems who voted for Nader and those GOPs who voted for Perot.
The GOP has 40% of the votes. The Dem has 40% of the votes. Independents has 20% of the votes. Elections are not won by trying to win over the other party's diehard. GOP candidate catering to DEM diehard = mega fail. Dem candidate catering to GOP diehard = mega fail. They just alienate their own base and fail to win over the diehard.
Elections are won by consolidating your base and winning over just half of the independents. Screw the other party's diehard as they will never vote for you in most cases.
Third party candidate just wouldnt cut it. They will not get any diehard from either party as everyone remembers what Perot and Nader did, ie siphoning away votes to let in the other party's candidate. So the diehard will not vote third party. And there isnt enough independent. So third party candidate is just a pipe dream.
Voting for a third party is not just a wasted vote, but essentially, a vote FOR your least preferred candidate. All you manage to accomplish, is to deny the lesser of the two evils your vote, allowing the bigger of the two evils to prevail. Cutting your nose off to spite your face.
LOL.. What are you saying? Red has no chance of taking a shot at the American dream?
Yeah Red, I'll see you at my nightshift at McDick later. LOL
Ah guys, probably anyone at the top is doing it mostly for ego and you know the outcome there can never be good. I truly believe that most presidents have the best intentions but with money and lobbying, nothing is ever truly honest. Anyway, at least for once we may have a red Monday. Sundancer, thank you so much for your insight, it gives me some peace of mind.
Thanks GC,
Independent candidates would be better then the bought and paid for Democrats and Republicans that are in office now. The “2 Party” system needs to be eliminated anyway, and so should the “electoral voting system”. We should just count the peoples' votes.
Red, Nice post. I feel less free everyday. We americans really need to find some good independent candidates to get in office.
Thanks, Great info. I also enjoy you post
How the heck do you come up with this stuff. Amazing stuff love to read A+++
I do say yes to that.
Market knows better than anyone else.
I would sell off if it thinks Health bill is going to cause doom to economy. I think health bill is good for economy so market is shooting up.
I have no clue how this bill is good for economy ?
But looks like Mr. Market is saying so.
So I shall be humble and take Mr. Market's verdict.
BTW Red you wont pay more in taxes, you have to make over 250G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I said since Sept 09 till Healthcare if passed we “will not see any significant sell off” (from Evil speculator blog post Sept) we shall see tomorrow if my thoughts are fullfilled.
Selling will come this week.